Handgun Caliber Showdown Round 1: 9mm vs .357 SIG

There have been many times I asked myself this question: If I survived a holocaust of some sort — like say a zombie apocalypse or a nuclear fallout — and there was only one semi-auto handgun caliber left in the world, what would that be for me?

  • Would I pick the 9mm because there might be stockpiles of ammo left everywhere?
  • Would I settle for the .380 acp which, with its really low SAAMI pressure limit, shouldn’t be to difficult to build a gun for as I could just use junk metal pipes?
  • Would I pick the 10mm for its .41 magnum ballistics, and for the possibility of setting up a great dual-caliber system in the Glock 20 (because I could use .40 S&W in the same gun) even if it would be next to impossible to find ammo or brass for it?
  • Would I pick the .45 acp because I’ve always been in love with it, and that most 1911s chambered for it can be converted to the mighty .460 Rowland with just a swap of barrels and recoil springs?
  • Or would I pick the .357 SIG because… I don’t know, maybe the holocaust would leave me a little messed up in the brain and I wouldn’t mind picking it because… aargh! I probably wouldn’t because I like the .38 Super and the 9×23 Winchester better… then again maybe I would?

Maybe if I compare the most common handgun calibers two at a time and record all my thoughts, I’d be able to figure out what the answer to the above question is.

Disclaimer: I do not intend to start another argument over which caliber is better — a lot of “gun experts” have been debating on these topics since Internet gun forums and message boards started becoming popular in the early 2000s, and I will not add to anyone’s pain or pleasure. This will be a very subjective comparison based on my own logic and experience, and my opinions do not reflect those of the other contributing authors of Gun News Daily.

So please do not take this article too seriously.


The 9mm vs. The .357 SIG

a picture of bullet terminal ballistics

In this article I will be comparing two kinds of similar but very different handgun calibers: the 9×19 Parabellum and the .357 SIG.

Both were designed for semi-automatic handguns, both use a projectile that has a diameter of 355/1000 of an inch, and with modern bullet designs, i.e. jacketed hollow points (JHPs) and jacketed soft points (JSPs) both can be great man-stoppers.

Where the two differ greatly are their bullet velocities, their case dimensions and some would argue, what they can be used for.


The 9mm’s Story

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Georg Luger, an Austrian sharpeye, patented a design for a pistol he so aptly named after himself in 1898, the Luger P08.

Not long after, he designed the 9×19 Parabellum cartridge that would use a .355-inch bullet — it would later supersede the then dominant but relatively smaller .309-inch bullet in the 7.65x21mm Parabellum.

Looking at the 7.65x21mm’s and the 9x19mm’s ballistics performance, it’s obvious that the former is superior. I can only assume Georg was tasked to redesign the 7.65x21mm and come up with the 9x19mm because of a few possible reasons:

  • Back in those days, hollow points for use in handguns would have been very difficult to mass-produce for war;
  • Even if hollow points for handguns were easier to mass-produce, the Hague Convention of 1899 wouldn’t have allowed for such bullets to be used for war;

The 9x19mm Parabellum Today

a picture of three 9mm cartridges with different bullet typesSince its introduction in 1902, the 9x19mm Parabellum, now more commonly referred to everywhere as the 9mm, has enjoyed a well-deserved reputation.

Its tapered brass that can withstand a SAAMI pressure limit of 35,000 psi (241 MPa) is quite tiny and allows for typical single-stack magazines designed for its arguably biggest rival, the .45 acp, to hold up to 22% more ammo.

The high-pressure rating of the brass can also push the typical 115-grain .355 caliber projectile out of a 4.65-inch barrel with muzzle velocities of up to 1,180 feet per second. The relatively small cross-sectional surface area of the bullet (diameter) allows it to penetrate solid objects quite well.

And since it’s only been popular for, well, close to a hundred years (if we consider that it only really became widely accepted after World War I), guns and ammo availability for this caliber will never be an issue.

Seeing how it’s still in use today in several countries’ military and law enforcement, the 9mm would probably continue to be a popular choice for handgunners for a hundred years more, notwithstanding threats from new contenders like the wildcat  .22 Tuason Craig Micromagnum (.22 TCM) and the still unnamed 7.5mm cartridge for what is arguably the most powerful semi-automatic production handgun yet, the 7.5 FK BRNO.


The .357 SIG’s Story

 a picture of four 357 sig hollow points

As Sylvester Stallone so eloquently put it in Rocky VI, “The world ain’t all sunshine and rainbows!” This is the sad truth, and doubly more so in the case of the .357 SIG.

Elmer Keith, an Idahoan gun nut among other things, got it right when he decided to hot-load the .38 Special for use in some of Smith & Wesson’s .38-caliber revolvers built originally for the .44 S&W Special.

His experiments led to Smith & Wesson developing a powerful new cartridge in 1935, capable of pushing a .357-inch 125-grain bullet out of a 4-inch barrel at speeds of at least 1,450 feet per second and producing more than double the .38 Special’s muzzle energy.

The brass was made 1/8-inch longer so it wouldn’t fit inside the weaker .38 Special revolvers’ chambers to avoid catastrophic results, and in 1935 it was christened the .357 S&W Magnum. In that same year the Smith & Wesson Registered Magnum (M27) was born.

The .357 magnum was so awesome that SIG Sauer, a Swiss-German firearms manufacturer, attempted to duplicate its ballistics when fired from a 4-inch barrel revolver by cutting the 10mm Auto’s case and necking it down to accept a .355-inch bullet (the same projectile for the 9mm).

The new cartridge was designed to be used for semi-auto pistols because of the platform’s inherent advantages over revolvers:

  • More ammo capacity in the semi-auto magazine vs. 6 to 8 rounds in the revolver chamber (this is true for wide-body semi-autos that use double-stack mags);
  • No forcing cone as barrel and chamber are on the same piece of metal and work as one (velocity loss in revolvers are not present in semi-autos);
  • Faster reloading time (because revolver speedloaders are no match for double-stack mags);
  • Easier concealment by nature of semi-autos not having the “bulging” profile of the revolver’s cylinder.

In 1994, it was introduced as the .357 SIG.

The .357 SIG Today — A Solution To A Non-existent Problem

a picture of a .357 sig, a 10mm and a .40 swSince its release some 23 years ago, the .357 SIG has had a small but loyal (even die-hard) fan base — “small” being the operative word.

Because it didn’t really catch on as far as popularity, partly due to it being released just a few years after the .40 S&W and partly due to it not really having any practical advantages over other more established handgun calibers, ammo availability tends to be an issue in some states.

Here are some other reasons why I think the round has yet to win the popularity contest:

  • The .357 SIG pushes a 125-grain bullet out of a 4.5 inch barrel at velocities reaching up to 1,450 feet per second. This effectively duplicates factory .357 magnum loads fired from a 4-inch revolver barrel. While SIG Sauer certainly accomplished this amazing feat in a semi-auto, the .357 magnum with its longer brass can be hot-loaded to unreachable levels, e.g. Buffalo Bore’s Heavy hunting loads that can push a heavier 180-grain bullet out of a 4-inch revolver barrel at velocities of up to 1,400 feet per second. This means the .357 SIG will never be as good as the .357 magnum for hunting.
  • Further on ballistics, the .357 SIG’s isn’t the only hard-hitting .355-inch bullet in the market. The 9mm loaded to the extremes can produce similar (albeit a little lower) bullet velocities, case in point Underwood’s 9mm LUGER +P+ which can push a 124-grain bullet out of a 5-inch barrel with velocity at the muzzle of 1,300 feet per second.
  • The slight drawback of the 9mm +P+ having a bit of a lower velocity is mitigated by the fact that durable all-steel guns (e.g. 1911s in 9mm, and even the super-strong Norinco CZ 75 copies) are more readily available and cheaper compared to handguns chambered for the .357 SIG.
  • Since durable steel handguns that can use 9mm +P+ loads are cheaper and more readily available, 9mm ammo are even cheaper and more readily available. Imagine being able to buy and use three different pressure loads (standard, +P and +P+) for your 9mm handgun vs. just one for your .357 SIG — would you still choose the SIG?
  • Two other strong contenders in the .355-caliber 125-bullet weight division are the .38 Super and the 9×23 Winchester. Both use a straight brass design (the latter being a little tapered). The ancient .38 Super performs about the same as the 9mm +P+, while the newer 9×23 Winchester directly contests the .357 SIG’s ballistics performance, able to push a 125-grain bullet at 1,450 feet per second out of a 4.5-inch barrel.
  • BUT the straight case design of these two calibers makes the cartridges ~6.2% thinner, allowing for one to two additional rounds in the mag. For comparison, a typical .40 S&W/.357 SIG 1911’s magazine can hold only 8 to 9 rounds, while a similar size 1911 mag for 9mm/.38 Super/9×23 Winchester can hold 9 to 10 rounds. Heck don’t even get me started on the newly-revived Coonan 1911-style pistol in .357 magnum.
  • The 10mm Auto, itself the magnum-level mother cartridge of both the .40 S&W and the .357 SIG, can push a slightly heavier 135-grain bullet at a whopping 1,600 feet per second out of a 4.5-inch barrel, but its case diameter measurements are about the same as the other two’s, so as far as ammo capacity, typical 10mm 1911 single-stack mags can also hold 8 to 9 rounds. If anything, the 10mm defeats the very purpose of the .357 SIG’s existence.
  • Since the ammo availability issue has plagued the .357 SIG’s for so long because its popularity didn’t catch on, handgunners would naturally resort to handloading. The problem is the .357 SIG also has a reputation for being hard to reload, so while a few are able to successfully reload, inexperienced reloaders end up getting frustrated and spreading even more bad news about the poor caliber.
  • These issues have formed a vicious cycle:  ammo availability/reloading issues cause frustration which causes bad rep, which in turn diminishes demand, which then pushes suppliers to sell their stock ammo at a loss, which then results to some manufacturers limiting/stopping ammo manufacture.

Conclusion

If life is as easy as doing ballistics comparisons, then it would be a no-brainer to state that the .357 SIG trumps the 9mm. It can send a same-size, same-weight bullet flying at much faster velocities which results to better terminal ballistics. Even the extremely hot 9mm +P+ with the same bullet weight runs about 150 feet per second slower than just the standard .357 SIG load.

Life isn’t ever going to be that easy though, and superior ballistics doesn’t necessarily mean a particular cartridge/caliber is better than another. Why, if that were the case, then I say we get rid of all types of ammo save the almighty .50 BMG, gather them and burn them all. Let’s all just get ourselves a .50 BMG rifle, gather around the bonfire with all the burning lead flying everywhere and sing Kum-ba-yah to high heavens.

I’m not dismissing the .357 SIG. I think as a concept, it works great. In a perfect world where money is never going to be an issue, I’d tell anyone who asks for a recommendation to buy any handgun chambered for this round if only to give it the chance it deserves.

I think the fine folks at SIG Sauer nailed it when they designed this cartridge. I love my Taurus 689 in .357 magnum. I’d love to have a subcompact semi-auto in .357 SIG. I’d love to have a Coonan in .357 magnum too. Ahhh so many guns, so little time.

But I digress.

So, for this handgun caliber showdown, it is with much sorrow and misery that I have to say that for all intents and purposes, the time-tested, relatively weaker but more readily available and more affordable 9mm wins over the .357 SIG.

A firearms and ballistics enthusiast and an outdoorsman, Mike is one of Gun News Daily's best contributing authors. He's a researcher, data analyst and writer by trade and strongly adheres to conservatism—a stalwart of the right to keep and bear arms.

27 COMMENTS

  1. 357 Sig is a great cartridge, but even with higher velocities and muzzle energy, it’s still a handgun and it doesn’t stop bad guys any better than the .40, 9mm or 45 ACP. If it did law enforcement agencies all over the country would’ve switched to it. Don’t get me wrong, I have a Glock 33 in 357 Sig and I love it! 357 Sig is one of my favorite cartridges, but my go to gun for EDC is my Glock 26 in 9mm. I’m pretty sure the 124 grain Federal HST’s stuffed in it will give a bad guy a real bad case of heartburn and indigestion. Not that I ever want to be in a gunfight. 😬

    • I’m cracking up on the heartburn/indigestion bit, lol.

      Thanks for the comment Michael, can’t agree more on everything you said. I think handguns being just handguns, they’ll only be great for when you need to defend yourself against a baddie in a pinch but will never be remotely as effective as rifles or shotguns.

      I guess this has to be the only exception (only downside is it costs an arm and a leg):
      https://gunnewsdaily.com/fk-brno-field-pistol-review/

      • I totally agree my friend. Handguns have always been for the immediate threat to end a confrontation with a bad guy. I read an article from a trauma surgeon and he’s seen people killed with a single .22 caliber bullet and he’s also seen guys shot with a 10mm that ran away. They also have no idea what someone has been shot with just by looking at them. Once the bullets have been removed that’s when they know. So the argument my .45 is so much bigger and better than your 9mm is not only silly, but the actual difference in diameter is 9.6 caliber, less than 1/2 the diameter of a .22 bullet. Doesn’t seem that much bigger to me. Anyway, long story short, it’s right back to “WHERE” someone is shot, not the caliber. I’m not suggesting that everyone just carry a .22, but, if it’s all you have, it beats throwing rocks. Anyway, thank you for the reply and a great article. You know as well as I do that the handgun caliber wars will continue until the Star Trek phasers come out, then it’ll start all over as to which phaser works best. 🙄 LMAO!
        Stay safe and best wishes to you and my apologies for not responding sooner.
        Cheers!

        • “…beats throwing rocks” lol brilliant!

          Thanks, glad you liked the article. Them phasers won’t be coming out for prolly a couple hundred years more — we’ll never see the end of the caliber wars in our lifetime 😀

      • I came across your article a little late, since we’re now at the end of April. But, nonetheless it was a brilliant piece of work. Thank you sir, for (what I think is) an honest and non biasedlook at gun calibers and their performance Vs availability. Although we all have our “comfort” caliber, I could not agree more with your assessment. You just earned your self a NEW fan. 👍

  2. No question, the caliber wars will continue as long as firearms are being used. As for the phasers, you’re right where that’s concerned too. We’ll never see them, but that’s ok, my G26 will do just fine, I just pray I never have to use it. I have no interest whatsoever in being in a gunfight. I’d rather watch actors get into gunfights on tv. LOL! And before I forget, I downloaded that link you sent and I’ll read it later today.
    Thank you again for your messages and I’m happy I could bring a little laughter your way.
    Cheers!

  3. Not sure why the .357 Sig is being evaluated as a hunting cartridge? It was never designed for this purpose. The .357 Sig was developed to offer the best of all worlds;
    1. stopping power equal to the .357 Magnum, the cartridge Evan Marshall and Ed Sanow deemed, in their book “Handgun Stooping Power”, best manstopper in actual shootings,
    2. A cartridge that had less recoil than .357 Magnum
    3. A cartridge that could be shot out of a gun the size of 9mm, smaller and lighter than the .45acp.357 Mag and 10mms of that period.
    4. A cartridge equal to .357 Mag ballistics in guns that provide double the capacity
    5. Not creating issues like early 10mm that shot guns apart becUse they used modified 9mm and .45acp guns and also did not overpenetrate like early 10mm cartridges were dling in actual shootings.
    The idea of having a gun the size, recoil and capacity close to 9mm with the stopping power of .357 Magnum was a very good idea.
    But, just as rifle cartridges that come out and are superior, sometimes far superior to 5.56mm and .308, they can rarely break into mainstream because the world is flooded with 5.56, .308 and 9mm.
    To say the .357 was trying to fix a non-existant problem is innacurate. It was addressing issues during that time of trying to create the best manstopper afyer yhe FBI claimed the 9mm failed in 1986. The 10mm was their second hope followed by the .40.
    To use the logic that 9mm is as good as the .357 Sig is the same as saying the .38 Special is as good as the .357 Magnum.
    The .357 Sig was desigend to address a very real problem, the problem of a non-ezistant handgun cartridge that is a very effective manstopper in all cases, conditions and situations.

    • @ThePersonalProtectionSpecialist
      Thanks for taking the time to read the article.

      I’m not sure where you got your info, but when you said “The 10mm was their second hope followed by the .40.” I took it you implied that the .357 SIG came before the 10mm? If that’s the case, that is inaccurate, as the 10mm was the mother cartridge of the .40 S&W, which came before the .357 SIG. The .357 SIG was a little late in the party because when it came out, the FBI and a lot of other law enforcement agencies had already adopted the .40 S&W.

      “To use the logic that 9mm is as good as the .357 Sig is the same as saying the .38 Special is as good as the .357 Magnum.”
      I didn’t say the 9mm is as good as the .357 SIG, in fact if you’d only take a second look at my article and really try to see where I was coming from, you would likely get the impression that I was rooting for the .357 SIG in this article. It is ballistically superior to the 9mm. Unfortunately that’s the only thing it has going for it.

      As I also put on the list of reasons why I think it didn’t catch on, a lot of other more common calibers with similar or better ballistics are more prevalent due to better availability/ease of handloading: the .38 Super and 9×23 Winchester, some super hot 9mm +P+ loads, not to mention the 960 Rowland which, at the time of the article’s writing I haven’t heard of — is a newer wildcat more powerful than the .357 SIG as it was supposedly designed to mimic true .357 magnum performance. All these calibers rival and some even exceed the .357 SIG as far as ballistics, but these having thinner casing means there’s room for more rounds in the mag.

      Then there’s its sister and mother cartridges the .40 S&W and 10mm respectively, the magazines for which will fit the same number of rounds — the .40 being one of the three most common handgun calibers in the world (which the .357 SIG really should have rendered obsolete were it destined for greatness), there’s just no hope for the .357 SIG as far as popularity in the foreseeable future.

      To reiterate what I wrote in the Conclusion part of the article, I wish the .357 SIG gained the popularity that I think it deserves, I really do. And I have nothing against people who like the cartridge. But its biggest Achilles’ heel being it can be expensive/difficult to come by/hard to handload in my opinion makes it inferior than the readily available but ballistically weaker 9mm. Only time will tell if it would gain the kind of resurgence in popularity the 10mm is enjoying now — both of us can only hope.

  4. Thank you for the entertaining article. It is very coincidental that I own both guns you have pictured (sig p239 in both calibers) and enjoy firing the sig 357 much more (and find myself carrying that more) but your conclusion hits the nail on the head when it comes to availability and affordability.

  5. Me personally I have thinned out my heard of 9mm pistols in favor of a few 357sig pistols. Love the caliber. I also noticed that you mentioned Underwood 9mm. They make some good 9mm loads, but they make even better 357 Sig. They advertise 1475fps, for 357sig but it chronos at 1500+ untill you put it in a Glock 33 then it comes in at advertised or slightly under. Ill keep both 9mm and 357sig cuz I like them both. The article was a nice read and had some good points. Nice work.

  6. I’d also point out that the 9 has less recoil and far less muzzle blast, two factors which positively lend to the most important factor, accuracy.

  7. I own a S&W shield in .40. I purchased a 9mm conversion barrel for it for ammo prices sake. The company I purchased from also had a .357sig barrel. I was just wandering if the .357sig load would be of much use in the short barrel of the Shield pistol?

    • Rick,

      What’s the barrel length on your S&W Shield? I’ve been looking a lot at Smith & Wesson’s website lately and I believe they have subcompact (~3-inch), compact and full-size Shield models.

      Whether or not it’ll be worth getting the conversion barrel depends on the barrel length of your particular Shield model.

      If you look at this link http://www.ballisticsbytheinch.com/357sig.html you’ll see that there’s around ~200 fps difference in muzzle velocities when firing any of the specified .357 SIG loads from a 3-inch and a 5-inch.

      If your Shield is a 3-inch I would say just get a different pistol that has a 4-inch or a 5-inch barrel if you want to maximize your gains (because unless it’s just for novelty’s sake I simply don’t see any practical reason to get a .357 SIG conversion for a 3-inch barrel when you already have the gun chambered for .40 S&W). I would recommend getting a Glock 23 and getting a .357 SIG conversion or better yet, get a Glock 32 and don’t bother converting it to .40 S&W.

      But if your Shield is a 4-inch then it might be worth trying. IIRC the .357 SIG was designed to be fired from barrels around 4 inches in length or longer — though it’s still faster than any 9mm load I know when fired from a 3-inch, I really don’t see the point.

      And shorter barrel = bigger muzzle blast, even worse than what Jason above has touched on in his comment. I imagine it’ll have more felt recoil too. But it’s really up to you.

  8. I came across your article a little late, since we’re now at the end of April. But, nonetheless it was a brilliant piece of work. Thank you sir, for (what I think is) an honest and non biasedlook at gun calibers and their performance Vs availability. Although we all have our “comfort” caliber, I could not agree more with your assessment. You just earned your self a NEW fan. 👍

    • @Amado Garcia, thank you for the kind words. Your comment made my day. Please do check out my other articles here at GND. 🙂

  9. Nice article. I like that u attempt to prevent the continuation of the never ending caliber wars. To each their own. I have one problem though and I see it in almost every pro/con evaluation of the .357 sig. Lack of ammo availability? Maybe at some local gunstores. I’ve had zero issues locating HSTs, Gold Dots, various brands of FMJ, reloads, etc. either online or at gunshows here in gun friendliest state in the nation – California! Anyhow, I love the 357 sig and hope to see it climb in popularity. Thanks for your input.

    • Damian, thanks for reading the article. If availability weren’t as much of a problem in a lot of other states, this comparison would really be a no-brainer, the .357 SIG would win hands down.

      Unfortunately, it is. And the main issue with buying stuff online is, well, cost. Anyone would be hard-pressed to find .357 SIG ammo as cheap as 9mm online. There are folks who have no issues forking out a couple more bucks and us cheapskates can only envy them. Yep, to each their own.

  10. I’d like to point out that the 357sig’s case shape also adds to reliability since it is a bottle necked case. I don’t see this point in most discrediting articles for the cartridge.
    As for ammo availability, I’ve got about 1800 to 2000 rounds of it and never had an issue finding it here in Texas.
    If bullet diameter, ammo availability and mag capacity were the main deciding points, then why not 9×18 or .380? I’d argue that these lack power, which is what 357sig does best. 38 super is also a great round, but I’ve only shot it and never owned one. My first 357 sig purchase was a LEO trade in Glock 31 that I still own. Since then, I’ve acquired a P239(for carry) and a P229(for my wife.) I’ve had a few others that I didn’t keep, because I didn’t care for the gun itself.
    My point is that I trust the cartridge, it does what 9mm does, but better, minus a little recoil and mag capacity. To me, if the shoe fits, wear it.

    • G Norm,

      It’s people like you that make me think the .357 SIG will never die. I can only hope its popularity catches on in the not so distant future — it deserves more.

      Thanks for reading.
      -Mike

  11. I’ve been a few shootouts over 30 years as a cop. The first was the 10mm Glock 20 and it did the job. The bean counters had a hissy over the cost of 10mm and convinced command to go to .45 Glock 21SF with Golden Sabres and a +P. We discussed the .357 Sig but yet again, too costly on the Ammo. Budget always controls preferences in the field. Most agencies in our areas had the Glock 22 / .40 so we were told to accept the .45+p
    .357 Sig was out of the running.

    Thumbnail: shootout with a Meth Head blasting us, he was hit 9 times within 12-15 feet, both lungs punched out, one hit through the neck severing his carotid artery and he ran like a zombie in WW 3 MOVIE. Final shot was into his spine , severing it by one of my detectives as he collapsed and rolled due to his momentum. Point being…no matter what you carry, today’s druggies are jacked up and don’t drop like in the movies. Our practice of head shots became a training focus afterwards whereas before we were trained center mass.

  12. I’m one of the odd ones out. I’ve been a Armed Security patrol officer for over a decade, carried everything from Sig p220s, 226s, 229s, Hk USPs, M9s, old steel 3rd gen Smith’s and every caliber from 9mm to .45ACP including the failed .45GAP.

    I currently carry a p229 chambered in .357 sig. I have. 40s&w and 9mm barrels for the weapon, but one small fact keeps me on the 357. Barrier penetration.

    The odds of myself having to fire on, more so through a car door or windshield , vs the average person is pretty large. Trajectories change a lot on glass, and with the supports inside a car door, 9mm and .40 can be stopped dead in its tracks.

    Now we all know an extra 200-300fps can flatten the trajectory of a round through glass, it can also give the extra umph needed to punch through a pesky folded steel door support.

    Also working outdoors in the woods of Maine, it has its merits against…larger wildlife that a 9mm, .40 or .45 would just piss off due to less penetration.

    Is it more expensive? Heck yes. $30-40 for 50 rounds of FMJ and astronomical prices for HPJ. Is ammo readily available?. Well not so much at the LGS, but the internet and places like SGammo make it easily purchased via the mail guy.

    Where I work I am not allowed to carry a 686-2 so….the hardest hitting “duty caliber” round I can have is the .357SiG…..and honestly. Thays just fine with me.

    Plus the fireballs it makes at twilight hours is a bonus :p

    • Jay,

      Thanks for reading through the article. I wish there could be more odd ones like yourself — then maybe the .357 SIG would get the popularity it deserves.

      If you’re working outdoors and you feel at one point that you need a more powerful weapon for big two-legged critters, there’s a good chance you can convert your .45 ACP handgun to a 10mm, a .45 Super or even a .460 Rowland (depending on brand/model) — handgun calibers that are much more powerful.

      I think carrying typical 125-grain .357 SIG loads is pushing it — I can be wrong as I’ve never had to shoot a bear before, but in such scenarios it’s better to err on the safe side.

      As far as the barrier/glass penetration bit and all other things you mentioned, I can’t agree more.

      All the best,
      Mike

  13. Hi, I am just an average guy with a CHL. After research I determined that if I ever had to defend myself I would want the upper hand. Where as my Glock 19 was the equalizer, the Glock 32 that I have made my EDC gives me more comfort. As to ammo availability, it is readily available at $15-16 a box of 50 on line. The 19 being the same size and feel as the 32 is still used for high volume range time.

  14. Hi, I am just an average guy with a CHL. After research I determined that if I ever had to defend myself I would want the upper hand. Whereas my Glock 19 was the equalizer, the Glock 32 that I have made my EDC gives me more comfort. As to ammo availability, it is readily available at $15-16 a box of 50 on line. The 19 being the same size and feel as the 32 is still used for high volume range time.

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